R103 I rented the DVD sets of seasons 1, 2, and 3 from Netflix in 2019. Brenda being slovenly and legitimately large and unlikable just made the audience realize that THAT was what the MTM showrunners had always intended for Rhoda to have been, the ugly wisenheimer sidekick with bitter, sarcastic cracks. He had personality at least. Two seasons later she got divorced, to some extent by popular demand. She hates appearing on camera these days and doesn't have to do promo work for The Simpsons (it's in her contract). James, however, recently fired back in the press and claimed Noella was lying. Sue Ann Niven probably saved the show, absent Rhoda and Phyllis (loss of funny female characters). Julie is so private that I can't find anything on the web about whether they are brother and sister. I will not say the politically correct thing.". So basically, Rhoda was an ill-conceived show that became unwatchable once they married her off. Most memorable sitcom characters are funny for some reason, whether they are needy, self-deprecating, foolish, airheaded, etc. the loyalty and dedication to each other was always there.. He was decent on drama but terrible on comedies. Frankly, the MTM work / WJM set looks downright flimsy, but somehow worked. Was it all some St. How do I get a copy of my Nebraska birth certificate? Phyllis had a surplus of great ones: Ed Weinberger and Stan Daniels (who would go on to do Taxi), Glen and Les Charles (who would do Taxi and Cheers), David Lloyd, Earl Pomerantz. Luckily ,they had Ida . I wish Vivian Vance had become a regular. OP good call. I think they shouldve had her date a toned down Johnny the lounge singer. Pop culture obsessives writing for the pop culture obsessed. When I was a little boy I wanted to be Brenda. It does not store any personal data. Why did Rhoda and Joe divorce? A finalization of a Troy Aikman Divorce would mark the end of a 10-year marriage between American football legend - and famed Dallas Cowboys' quarterback - Troy . His film credits included Get Shorty (1995) and Victory at Entebbe (1976), and in recent years he starred in several independent films. When Rhoda's mom and dad left "Rhoda", they brought in Anne Meara, playing a younger version of Rhoda's mom. Tina was annoying as hell. 05:00 A.M. American movie icon Mary Tyler battled chronic health issues which left her blind and motionless during her last days. Many were big hits. There have been rumors for years that Scarborough has a thing for his "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski (who is married btw). Hoda and Joel are parents to two adopted daughters, Hope Catherine and Haley Joy. click ACCEPT. Groh had a rather busy career guesting on TV drama and cop shows. The couple separate until they can work out the problem. Brenda would not get married on the series, unfortunately. Hey cunty millennial - if you were in grade school in the 70s, and were the kind of kid who liked sit-coms, there really werent that many to watch. (David Groh got the caning on this one.) Valerie's real-life husband (divorced in 1978), actor Richard Schaal, was on the MTM Show quite a bit. By the beginning of the fourth season, it was announced that their divorce was finalized. Wow is it tedious. However, in the first episode of the third season, they decided to separate after Joe revealed that he was restless and unhappy in their marriage. More conflict, more comedy. (Indeed, its difficult to think of another show that did something similar.) CBS was so disrespectful to Rhoda. She was anorexic looking, and everyone - from critics to Rona Barrett to my neighbors - commented on it. Your Ad Choices Hello. However, in the first episode of the third season, they decided to separate after Joe revealed that he was restless and unhappy in their marriage. The couple, who married in 1969, separated in 1978 and divorced in 1984. The thing with switching the younger married sister for spinster Brenda was weird too. And while some episodes are pitiful at least some episodes were fun. David Grohl seemed to be a very good sport about being unceremoniously let go from a show that he had every reasonable expectation to stay on indefinitely. I dont know why they saddled Rhoda with a divorced guy with a kid. The issue with Rhoda too is that the characters just weren't very likable. Use My Location Theres perfect material for Ida to invite over a friend of Rhodas who Ida thought was perfect. Get TMZ breaking news sent right to your browser. She even dated him once. our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn I don't know if she had a crazed stalker or if she collects nazi memorabilia (yes, I know she's Jewish) or what but it's just really odd that she's practically a recluse outside of work even for a (B-List) celebrity. Do you not understand this is a SITCOM? Valerie Harper said that Rhonda-Joe as it was, was too "married married Sadie lady" to succeed. Again, that wouldn't have worked because Groh couldn't do comedy. I just read some of the reviews on Amazon and they're supposed to be shitty. By the end of the third season, the show's writers had taken a desperate step to shake things up: Rhoda divorced Joe. There were several shots of Harper in tights during the first season and while not exactly fat, she was definitely stocky in the legs. But it also plummeted to 32nd in the Nielsens, and it never recovered. The show dropped into the 80s in the ratings and was yanked midseason. I suspect she hates the show and is only doing it for the money (still nearly half a million per episode which earns her about 10 million per season). He tells her to see other people and exits the series. Instead they couldnt write for a couple and had her divorced after 2 seasons. Act. There are TV people I like to spend time with, and one of them is Rhoda. So when she got divorced and the actors playing her parents got lured away to do their own shows in the third season, she was twisting in the wind. The question any spinoff must answer first is what voice its going to adopt to differentiate itself from its parent show. They were dumb not to go that route. From what I saw, she couldn't do either comedy OR drama. He graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Brown University, studied acting in London on a Fulbright scholarship and served in the Army in 1963 and 1964. Rhoda and Joe are house hunting. Photo: Matthew Eisman/Getty Images. He was hotter than fuck. They are not Jewish names, but were still popular names in Jewish families, as were other non-Jewish names like Alan and Steven. I remember Ida hugging her daughters "Rhoda Faye and Brenda Faye." Rhoda goes out with various losers. It can be too easy to play to those characters perceived strengths and make them come off overbearing. Why did they name her Brenda? Married Rhoda wasn't as much fun as single Rhoda. Joels Linkedin shows that he currently works as the Head of Intermediary Distribution, North America, for an investment management company. She was happy the show was succeeding. None of it should make much sense. David Groh used to give me such hard-ons! I know, I know! Rhoda said her car that was in the shop needing repairs was a Falcon. In addition, Harpers confidence and verve in the role grew to such a degree that it started to seem ludicrous that Rhoda would be so unlucky in love. Too young to go. There is going to be a marathon on Decades this weekend. While it's unclear if these affairs led to the divorce, it's clear that Cheyenne wasn't shy about airing her grievances on the show. Death. They tried to use her as the sane one in a sea of quirky characters, like they did with Mary Richards, but MTM was better able to carry off that "straight man" role than Val. admin. Joe as a cook with political ambitions = endlessly funny. Joe was lousy as a lead character, he would have been worse as a supporting character. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/arts/television/15groh.html. Rhoda and Joe should've opened up a half-way house for a whole bunch of cute delinquent kids! It's like they didn't even care. I'm watching a post-divorce episode. Do Not Sell My Personal Information, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window). "Phyllis" did well the first year, out rating "Mary Tyler Moore" and "Rhoda" but couldn't sustain it. Julie Kavner was inspired casting for Brenda, just as Nancy Walker and Harold Gould were as Rhodas folks. However, they remained tight-lipped about their relationship until the paparazzi released pictures of them together. . He's cancelled to me! The snooty gay store manager always there with a withering quip, the sexpot girl in ladies lingerie, the guys in the sports department always talking sex, the old man in accounting always trying to pinch Rhodas bottom. If they kept her divorced or never married, they couldve developed a relationship for a season or two also. Carlton is fired after Rhoda and Joe are robbed and Rhoda blames their misfortune on his inability to handle his doorman duties. R6 I had a friend who lived in LA for awhile, trying to break into the business. She had captured the character by studying her Italian stepmother. R221, she looked very young in that episode as well. Phyllis only ran for two seasons, so there's little chance people saw it on TV but YT and DM keep it readily available. There was only so much he could do. IIRC, Rhoda owed Mary $ b/c Mary lent R money to start her plant shop. It was reassuring in a very precarious moment in my prepubescence. Also, if 'Rhoda' had debuted this way in 1974, they'd have beaten 'The Jeffersons' in having the first interracial marriage on tv. On Valerie, it always seemed like she was the odd man out, but I think thats because the material was beneath her. ", ^ with Joyce shitting in the purses of all the women she resented and was envious of. But at every turn, its evident all involved are trying to make something different both from Mary and from TVs other sitcoms. Did Mary Tyler Moore have a drinking problem? One day Julie Kavner came in for coffee and when she put her purse, a huge shoulder bag, onto the counter, it made a strange sound: plunk, rattle rattle. Although the producers of Rhoda believed the plot development was essential, the fan response to Rhoda and Joe's separation in the third season was overwhelmingly negative and hostile. He couldn't do comedy and sanked what could have been a good spinoff sitcom. He appeared in the Broadway productions of Chapter Two in 1978 and The Twilight of the Golds in 1993. Joe was written into a corner by being head of a demolition company. I heard that the writers had a hard time coming up with ideas while Joe and Rhoda were married but after they divorced they were brimming with them. Ted Knight and Georgia Engel were huge fan favorites too. Rhoda should've joined a traveling circus as a seamstress for clowns and elephants. Broadly speaking, there are two kinds of spinoffs: the brand extension and the beloved-character vehicle. Feb. 15, 2008. @r24, Exactly, I know a lot of Jewish Debras (Debbie). I just saw that new movie Annie Hall. Then there was this car in later opening credits. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. Her statement left viewers shocked as she and the financier dated for eight years before calling it quits on their relationship. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Seven episodes after Rhoda emerged on Sept. 9, 1974, as a spinoff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Rhoda Morgenstern (Valerie Harper), who was Marys best friend, married Joe Gerard, who ran a wrecking company. David Groh died of cancer at age 68. Groh was charmless and had no personality. We loved the Rhoda of the MTM shows. [quote]It was interesting/weird that Rhoda didn't have a workplace to start because that was part of the MTM house style. Jeb Bush. Valerie Harper was a very good dramatic actress if you didn't know - stage and TV. The series had attempted to reflect the changing face of marriage in the United States in the 70s, and it had gotten punished for it. Is that what y'all are trying to say? You can tell by S2 they had no clue what to do with Rhoda and Joe. This story has been shared 33,066 times. Who could have played that part better? Would've been fun seeing Rhoda working in a NYC department store. Rhoda, the MTM Show, and even Phyllis have been rerunning on various cable networks pretty consistently since the mid-'90s, and have been on YouTube for years. The doorman was tedious. You mean this huge 1973 Ford Mustang convertible yellow thing? Joe divorced Vickie. She was painfully thin during the early episodes of S4; Winifed Hervey, who was an intern on the show, recounted that VH had been on a liquid fast that summer and was not in the best mood when she came back from hiatus. The first season consisting of 4 DVDs costs $9.99 at Amazon at the moment, so it's a relatively small price to pay to find out if the quality is OK for your viewing situation. The show began with Rhoda leaving Minneapolis and returning to her native New York City. In addition, Harper, a trained stage actress, possessed a wildly different energy from Moore; she was earthy where Moore was slightly flighty. compared to Ted. [quote]She was only ever excellent on the MTM show. They shouldve given Rhoda a post-Joe-divorce girlfriend. Rhoda would have still married Joe, but this Joe would have been a really handsome and successful African-American. And audiences hated it. Rhodas Wedding is mostly remarkable for how thoroughly the Rhoda characters are realized eight episodes in. As for Sam and Diane, I will never forgive the producers for at least not having them get together in the finale. It would have been so much better than the show we got. That aside, Josh Taylor was SO HOT, the kids were great, Mrs. Poole was perfect as a kindlier & less nosy Mrs. Apparently, Roseanne fought with everybody to make her show the best of its kind, firing producers/writers left and right until she got exactly what she wanted for the series. Brenda Patimkin in "Goodby Columbus." Does he like Shamrock Shakes? But before her declining health, she delivered amazing flicks which shot her to stardom. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Teresa Giudice revealed that her now ex-husband Joe Giudice did not receive anything in their divorce settlement on Wednesday nights episode of The Real Housewives of New Jersey., In our divorce settlement, I get the house and Joe walked away with nothing because I paid off all his debt, Teresa said in a confessional. Mary Tyler Moore was still a hit when Asner decided to pursue other interests, and so it was brought to an end in the seventh season. [quote]Julie Kavner always struck me as odd. After the divorce, Van has been linked to a string of other women, some of which have been serious relationships. Why did she have TWO beds? I think Im the only one here watching the marathon, some of these eps for the first time. At the time, I read that was being considered, but Ted is such an unsympathetic asshole it wasn't plausible. I can see how it turned off viewers back then. All the men in the cast would star in their own shows after M.T.M. Rhoda pushed against those ideas, and it became a better show. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Popular name in the early 50s. Divorce finalized in 2010. Rhoda was the first show to take us through the heartbreak of divorce and it's aftermath, though an amicable divorce in which no one could blame either party. It usually works that way, Rhoda wouldn't want a mini-me. [quote] The wedding episode featured guest appearances by many of the main characters from The Mary Tyler Moore Show, including Mary Richards (Mary Tyler Moore), Lou Grant (Edward Asner), Murray Slaughter (Gavin MacLeod), Georgette Franklin (Georgia Engel), and Phyllis Lindstrom (Cloris Leachman). Table of Contents show Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Decidedly highbrow for its era of TV comedy, Frasier made all the right choices to break with its more blue-collar parent series. The audience didnt buy the two of them as a couple (they had no chemistry) and actively disliked Groh. Joe Scarborough -- host of MSNBC's " Morning Joe " -- quietly divorced his wife of 12 years back in January . Adkins' wife, Rhonda Adkins, filed for divorce in Williamson County, Tennessee Tuesday citing "irreconcilable differences", local TV station WSMV reported. Really, R89? Rhoda said "Ma, if you liked the name Faye so much why didn't you just name one of us Faye>" And Ida said "I didn't like it THAT much.". Between the divorce and losing her business, she came off as a loser like r7 said, and everyone wanted to see Rhoda win. The beloved-character vehicle is tougher because it requires a defter touch. The duo got engaged in 2019, about six years after dating. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. What works in a supporting role can be overdone in a lead role, and TV history is littered with cases like Joey or AfterMASH, where characters who were fun in limited amounts ended up feeling like too much when turned into the leads of their own series. [quote]Once again I am astounded by the Eldergay ability to remember intricate plot points of a largely forgettable show that first aired 48 years ago. That Girl was able to do five seasons of NYC with a steady boyfriend and interfering parents. . Season 6 Rhoda finds out she was accidentally switched at birth and isn't Jewish after all. They could have given her a snobby primary client or something. The successful Lear spin-offs took secondary or even less frequent characters out of the mix - so the characters were less familiar - thus more malleable, and their absence didnt hurt the show that much. After PM died, Anjelica Huston said that PM did too much coke, sat in her basement, watching QVC & buying Beanie Babies. Joe and Rhoda fell in love and eventually he invited her to live with him in his apartment; once she moved in, Rhoda decided she wanted to get married and, after a little hesitation, Joe finally agreed. The brand extension is something like Maude or Mork And Mindy or even NCIS. I disagree with OP. 2023 EHM PRODUCTIONS,INC. For one thing, Harper and Groh didnt have tremendously good chemistryand certainly not good enough chemistry to carry a series going forward. Nieces and nephews, Ida as a grandma, Rhoda as a step mother which they never really explored. The concern over being identified with her former role had apparently diminished by the second season as she dumped the wig. There are episodes of Rhoda as good as anything on the parent show, and there are episodes that flail about wildly, looking for something to do. Why did Rhoda get Cancelled? R189 She certainly saved The Hogan Family. IIRC, Rhoda Show was mostly set in her NY apartment. The two of them as the tent pole for a show would have been painful. [quote] I had a friend who lived in LA for awhile, trying to break into the business. As in real life, nothing interesting can happen to you when you're dragging a ball 'n chain. Shes moving back to where she grew up. Nancy in her big late 50's musical, "Copper & Brass", running a very lengthy 36 performances. What genius picked the block of wood soap actor Josh Taylor to be her husband in Valerie's Family? They decided to make Rhoda fat again, put her in tent dresses and gave her a terrible poodle perm. R194, I agree regarding Valeries Family (Valerie, Hogan Family etc), and MTM (her best work on TV) and really she was THE breakout star of seasons one & two of MTM. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. The series finally sank without a trace after just 13 episodes in its fifth season (which introduced another separationbetween Ida and Martininto the proceedings), bringing the run to 110 episodes, enough for syndication but not enough to recapture the shows former glory. Why was Joe written off Rhoda? Does anyone know where to get good DVDs of Rhoda? Seasons 1 and 2 (19741976) Rhoda uses her own maiden surname Morgenstern in her professional dealings as a window dresser and her married surname Gerard in her personal life. I've seen them, and they are high-quality transfers from original source material. Rhoda Morgenstern leaves Minneapolis with two episodes to go in Marys fourth season. Please click here to register for free. The first and second seasons of Rhoda centered on Joe and Rhoda's life as a married couple. I like the mother (Ida / Nancy Walker) and father characters & the actors who played them. For most of the history of television, the barrier to syndicationand to profitabilityhas been 100 episodes. Rhoda owning her own window-dressing business was boring. The car Rhoda put a down payment on was no Mustang, it was enormous yellow thing. Hirsch guest starred as Rhoda's bf on a few episodes and it was a good pairing. Did they think the kid would be comic conflict? The third season of Rhoda is one of the most fascinating sitcom seasons ever constructed, a weird combination of good ideas, solid execution, and a complete misunderstanding of what the audience wanted. But that scenario didn't work because Groh couldn't do comedy. Been watching this on YouTube thanks to this thread (seen it before but forgot). Deborah was a famous judge (or leader) of the jewish people. Joe Gerard, played by actor David Groh, is a fictional character on the television sitcom Rhoda, a spin-off of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. So she insisted on a new wardrobe, new styling, and a new, hit man to fall in love with her. Law.. [quote] Rhoda, the MTM Show, and even Phyllis have been rerunning on various cable networks pretty consistently since the mid-'90s, and have been on YouTube for years. Mitchell/Neigher engineered the disastrous divorce and got bounced. Teresa Giudice has since revealed that Joe Giudice did not receive anything in their divorce settlement. [quote]Rhoda owning her own window-dressing business was boring. 33,066, This story has been shared 29,174 times. Debralee Scott would've been better as Brenda than Julie Kavner. During the remainder of that season, Joe would pop in and out of Rhoda's life, but they never reconciled and in the episode "The Ultimatum", Rhoda finally issues Joe an ultimatum: either he can really try to make their marriage work, or she's going to start seeing other people. He also taught acting classes in LA. January 1, 2023 October 9, 2022 by John Groove. Some say they got married for the "wrong reasons," such as wanting to . Then when the marriage was actually breaking down, she was a puddle of insecurity and could barely confront him. "Lisa" was a generational name - not a Jewish one - in the 60s and 70s. It was a punishment because he wasn't ready for it and told Rhoda so but she insisted on marriage. The couple finalized their divorce in September after 20 years of marriage, with Teresa calling their split the easiest divorce in the whole entire world. They had separated in December 2019 following years of infidelity rumors and their individual prison stints; Teresa officially put their marital home on the market after Joe signed their divorce papers. More practically, he was too much of a buffoon to be the lead, even if his character had been softened. Did Rhoda and Joe get divorced? An NYC department store in the '70s would've been a very plausible career path for Rhoda and a great source of storylines and characters. 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