All were qualified for the flight. First Officer: A thousand feet above the ground, rate and speed good. and the height over the runway, by subtracting the runway elevation (828) from the flight recorder altitude. So the altimeter could have gained those 300 feet in the impact. Only during my final few years did I fly aircraft with moving map systems and electronic Jeppesen plates. This category contains only the following file. This student made a video about Southern Airways flight 932 as his National History Day Project on Tragedy and Triumph (which, to be honest, I watched with the sound off). Perhaps, if we were able to dig a bit further, this might be where the lack of adherence to cockpit crew procedures and poor crew management originated. The boards conclusion leaves open the question as to whether that final call of hundred meant the height above the ground or the current airspeed, as they were in the process of going around. Southern Airways: Registration: N97S: MSN: 47245/510: First flight: 1969: Total airframe hrs: 3667: . There is no known static system error which could cause a 200-foot altimeter error along with a corresponding air-speed error of -17.5 knots; without evidence of a phenomenon which could cause these errors, the Board cannot conclude that a static system error is supported by sufficient evidence to be termed a causal factor in this accident. The Ceredo and Kenova fire departments were recognized at the event. [18], Each year on the anniversary of the crash, those who died are mourned in a ceremony on the Marshall University campus in Huntington, West Virginia. Jeppesen had a 30 arc second (~1km) grid database back in 2002; the DTED-0 database has that resolution and takes up 2 GB of data. Code Insee. So if the 400 feet was from the radio altimeter, then they were only 900 feet above mean sea level, even though the minimum descent altitude for the approach was 1,240 feet above mean sea level. Southern Airways 242 CVR Transcript 4 Apr 1977 - Southern Airways 242 Southern Airways Flight 242 was a DC-9-31 jet, registered N1335U, that executed a forced landing on a highway in New Hope, Paulding County, Georgia, United States after suffering hail damage and losing thrust on both engines in a severe thunderstorm on April 4, 1977. It could have been originally from North Central or Hughes AirWest instead, however. Chip, The radio altimeter was used during Cat 2 or Cat 3 approaches. On Nov. 14, 1970, a plane carrying 75 people including Marshall's football team, coaches, staff, community members and flight crew crashed near the Huntington Tri-State Airport on a return trip. Categories: Aviation accidents and incidents in 1970. Because it was the Herd's only charter flight of the season, boosters and prominent citizens were on the plane, including a city councilman, a state legislator, and four physicians. I had little or no time for preparations. The aircraft was a 95-seat, twin-jet engine Douglas DC-9-30 with tail registration N97S. Page:NTSB Southern Airways Flight 932 report.pdf/34 This page has been proofread, but needs to be validated. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the Tri-State Airport, killing all 75 people on . Some points you make are plausible, but it seems that few readers understand: [3] The team was returning home after a 1714 loss to the East Carolina Pirates at Ficklen Stadium in Greenville, North Carolina. Presuming that the terrain was rising again, they could have been 126 feet above the higher ground. December 10, 2006 Herald-Dispatch [Huntington]. The corresponding flight recorder shows that the craft descended another 220ft (67m) in elevation within these 12 seconds, and the co-pilot calls out "four hundred" and agrees with the pilot they are on the correct "approach." Required fields are marked *. QFE or QNH are part of the respective operators SOPs. The controller later cleared them for a runway 11 localizer approach. our approach speed was nearly the cruising speed of the 172. His seniority earmarked him for promotion. The probable cause was cited as the descent below Minimum Descent Altitude. So its reasonable to think that the captain presumed that they had reached the MDA for that approach. always be in our hearts. His first officer that day was less experienced. Southern Airways (IATA: SO, ICAO: SOU, Call sign: Southern) was a regional airline operating in the United States from its founding by Frank Hulse in 1949 until 1979 when it merged with North Central Airlines to become Republic Airlines, which on October 1, 1986, became part of Northwest Airlines, which in 2008 became a part of Delta Air Lines. On November 14, 1970, at 7:36 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 crashed into a hill short of the runway of the Tri-State Airport at Ceredo, West Virginia, killing all 75 people on board.The plane, a Douglas DC-9, carried 37 members of the Marshall University football team, the Thundering Herd, along with eight members of its coaching staff, 25 boosters, and five flight . alt. Notify me of new posts by email every Friday. Jack Lengyel was named to take Tolley's place on March 12, 1971, after Dick Bestwick, the first choice for the . Hired in 1965, he held his commercial pilot certificate and had 5,872 hours, of which 1,196 were on the DC-9. The video made by the student is surprisingly professional and certainly heartbreaking. The ONLY type of approach where it had anything more than a purely advisory function is in Cat 2 and Cat 3 ILS approaches. For a private owner it was a near impossibility to keep abreast. Required fields are marked *. Yes the Jeppesen was unbelievably detailed and the weekly updates were a real pain in the part of the anatomy that many people these days hoard paper for. Looking at the glide slope diagram, their descent angles make sense if they thought the airport was at 550 ft ASL. On April 4, 1977, it executed a forced landing on Georgia State Route 381 in New Hope, Paulding County, Georgia, United States, after suffering hail damage and losing thrust on both engines in a severe thunderstorm. In the report, the NTSB concluded, "[] the probable cause of this accident was the descent below Minimum Descent Altitude during a nonprecision approach under adverse operating conditions, without visual contact with the runway environment". However, there was another odd detail. [8], The board made three recommendations as a result of this accident, including recommendations for heads-up displays, ground proximity warning devices, and surveillance and inspection of flight operations. In that post, I stepped through the sequence of events which led to the crash of the charter flight to Huntington Tri-State airport in a McDonnell Douglas DC-9 which killed all 75 on board. The disadvantage was that it required an approach controller talking constantly to only one aircraft at the time. Mendel, I felt the images and newspaper headlines did a good job of showing the impact of the crash. that the aviation industry continue to focus on the unique demands for crew coordination and vigilance during non-precision approaches, particularly with emphasis on developing area navigation systems with vertical guidance capability and heads-up display. But it's also a month of mourning: on November 14, 1970, on a dark, wet, cold night just after 7:35 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 went down in a field near Kenova, killing all 75 people on board. So unless the crew were rank amateurs, there was absolutely no excuse for them not to be aware of terrain or obstacles. On November 14, 1970, a DC-9 carrying members of West Virginia's Marshall University Football Team would crash on a rainy hillside, killing everyone on board. Southern Airways, Inc., a Dc-9, N97S, operating as charter Flight 932, crashed during a landing attempt at the Tri-State Airport, Huntington, West Virginia, at approximately 1936 E.S.T., on. [21] The ceremony featured guest speakers Dawson and Hardin. However, the pilot had little, if any, information instantly available to him regarding the elevation and character of the terrain below the aircraft or the flight path related thereto. There is not much in part 2 to make me see this tragedy differently.1. A radio altimeter works essentially the same way as. A memorial bell tower is being planned for a location on WV 75 near exit 1 along Interstate 64. Nowadays GPS can be programmed to give precision guidance to aircraft nearly anywhere, the systems were already being developed before I retired 12 yearw ago. The disadvantage is that it relates to sea level. : 1 The former is easier to use as it will give the altitude as height, with the zero reference being the airport. But this instrument, as I have been at pains to explain, had NO funtction in determining minimum sdescent heights (Not altitudes in this case, it refers to the distance between the aircraft and obstacles immediately below it!). He made at least four call outs that are definitively height or altitude. Southern Airways, Inc., a DC-9, N97S, operating as charter Flight 932, crashed during a landing attempt at the Tri-State Airport, Huntington, West Virginia, at approximately 1936 E.S.T., on November 14, 1970. 2) He erroneously used the radio altimeter, thus calling out the height over the current terrain rather than over the runway. He was going to fly a monitored approach, in fact similar to a cat 2, but only to cat 1 minima. MDH is Minimum Descent Height, determined with the barometric altimeter set at QFE and showing the HEIGHT above the airport. I had not remembered the plates detailing obstacles around the approach, but from ~45 years ago thats not surprising; I also flew mostly near the coast, so uneven terrain wasnt something I paid much attention to. This may still be the case, I dont know. The unit has sustained considerable impact damage to the electronics package, but there was no damage within the stainless steel case of the tape magazine. We did get some information, including the warning that if the destination was not identified within a few minutes after ETA the pilot had to make an immediate U-turn and fly on a westerly heading. The glass cockpit had not been introduced yet. Jimmy Doolittle had far less at his disposal when he demonstrated the possibility of landing on instruments, but he did possess ample basic flying skills and the discipline to maintain his concentration. The 2015 EUROCONTROL Terrain and Obstacle Data Manual mandates a 3 arc second grid that gets more accurate closer to airports. Mendel, They were our fathers, mothers, grandparents, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandchildren. Thats an important point in itself. The pilot had his barometric altimeter, vertical speed indicator, airspeed indicator, and radio altimeter to aid him in establishing the desired descent profile. the height over the terrain, by subtracting the elevation from the altitude. Southern Airways - Flight #242 - DC-9-30 - New Hope, GA - April 4, 1977 - "I was in the training department at the time - while I didn't go to the crash site, I was responsible for all Flight Attendant training records, and also was called in to assist when Sandy Purl wanted to listen to the cockpit voice recorder," Gloria recalled. The main difference was a changed holding pattern, they never even got that far. Recommendation #1 starts to point at this, then veers off into planned electronic aids that would do nothing if the crew didnt pay attention to them; in particular, its not clear that a heads-up display would have helped in those conditions. Southern announces its Covid19 policy. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the . Finally, he may have been including his barometric altimeter in his instrument scan, but was concerned with other items during the final stages of the approach to such an extent that he did not notice any variations. You contribution makes sense, even if the investigation failed to determine whether or not the altimeter had been a factor. They were more than a movie. [21], November 14, 2013, marked the first time that Marshall had played a road game on an anniversary of the disaster. Seventy children had at least one parent die in the crash, with 18 of them left orphaned. That game did not occur due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft . Southern is the only US Commuter Airline serving America's 5 Busiest Airports! But there the relevant heights were calibrated and shown on the Cat 2 or Cat 3 approach plates. [1][2], The plane was carrying 37 members of the Marshall University Thundering Herd football team, eight members of the coaching staff, 25 boosters, two pilots, two flight attendants, and a charter coordinator. The aircraft began its normal descent after passing the outer marker, but did not arrest its descent and hold altitude at 1,240ft (380m), as required by the assigned instrument approach procedure. On a precision approach we use either DA or DH, same principle. And the fourth call, the important one, to show that theyd reached their MDA, doesnt match up however we look at it. The NTSB had previously recommended the installation of altitude alerting devices (Ground Proximity Warning Systems) in reports released in 1968, 1969, 1971 and 1972 (the Southern flight 932 report was released in late 1972). Id think a terrain database would take up a lot of memory even with the huge capacity of modern RAM. Then there was the annual checklist. Airport (MEM), Southern Airways Express operates a fleet of 36 aircraft traveling to a range of sought-after destinations. How much would it cost to develop a system that uses directional radar (similar to Civilian Primary Surveillance Radar) that reports elevation relative to the runway, so the air traffic controller could includes that information as a safety check for pilots to verify their own readings/calculations? The landing gear was lowered but no statement was made by either crew member in the cockpit. This captain and I had done our simulator training and check together, so we knew that we could operate as a strong team. The city of Huntington, West Virginia, and Marshall University suffered an unimaginable loss: the crash of Flight 932, a chartered Southern Airways McDonnell Douglas DC-9-31 jet carrying most of the members of the Marshall University Thundering Herd football team, as well as boosters, coaches, and other passengers. The SRTM3 (Space Shuttle Radar Topography Mission) data set has that resolution and is 35 GB in size. Improved highways and an increasing willingness among passengers to drive to airports farther away for more convenient flights made many of Southern's routes obsolete. Regulations, entry requirements, class 2 Notams, interpretation of TAFs, METARs, de-icing priocedures, emergency procedures, you name it: it can all be found in the Jeppy, combined with airway charts, area charts and the various and very detailed STARs, SIDs, airport charts and approach charts. Your email address will not be published. Your story confirms what I was pointing at: there seems to have been not only bad real-time CRM but bad (or completely missing) preparation. Menu. New route: Fly between Muskegon and Chicago and make seamless connections to United, American, and Alaska Airlines. It was the difference between getting there or diverting. Classes at Marshall, along with numerous events and shows by the Marshall Artists Series (and the football team's game against the Ohio Bobcats), were cancelled and government offices were closed. They were more than a movie. With its primary hub at Memphis Intl. In the following weeks, Lengyel was aided in his attempts by receivers' coach Red Dawson. Any lateral adjustment to the flightpath may change the height of the aircraft above the hilly terrain. Southern Airways Flight 932: Oklahoma State University: United States: 2001: ten people associated with men's basketball team (including two players) This flight was the only flight that year for the Marshall University football team. longitude." It would not have been a problem if the approach had been preceeded by a crew briefing. The remarks of the captain regarding the autopilot and the downdrafts might then be the result of him not being aware that terrain height changes would affect the RadAlt; hed think the aircraft had moved more vertically than his mental model of the aircraft position allowed for, when in fact the terrain height had changed. "Kenova to dedicate crash memorial Monday." Itd be interesting to know which airports they were used to flying to, and how much experience they had with mountain operations. Why does he call out the height above ground at all? Here is a table from the report which shows: As you can see, the first call certainly appears to be the height over the runway elevation. This could also at least partly explain why the crew seemed uncertain of their terrain clearance. Why. They do not change the altimeter setting halfway during an approach, nor are they at liberty to select either. The bronze 1723 ft (57 m) statue was created by artist Burl Jones of Sissonville, West Virginia, and cost $150,000. was well above the airport altitude. In this case the issue was an unfamiliar airport rather than an unfamiliar procedure, but their failure to plan seems clear. You could be correct. I find this only slightly better than an explanation that the plane crash was caused by impact with the trees, to be honest. Seventy children lost at least one parent in the crash, with 18 of them left orphaned. Both systems were used to talk-down an aircraft. Database; Description; Contact Search the site. [15], Marshall University President John G. Barker and Vice President Dedmon appointed a memorial committee soon after the crash. We kept Europe and Eastern Europe, our area of operations brought us frequently behind the Iron Curtain. Flight status, tracking, and historical data for Southern Airways Express 932 (9X932/FDY932) including scheduled, estimated, and actual departure and arrival times. The aircraft was destroyed. What remains obvious: Human resource management and crew coordination were slack, even by the standards of 1970. [1]:1 [3] Even so, I did get caught out once. The larger folded airway charts still would arrive by mail. Southern Airways. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill . Got bug and twelve. A mass funeral was held at the field house and many of the dead were buried at the Spring Hill Cemetery, some together because bodies were not identifiable. The hill with the trees reached a height of 990 feet above sea level, so about 150 feet higher than the runway that they were flying towards. Although the Safety Board has been unable to determine the probable reason for the unrecognized descent below MDA in this instance, the Board wishes to reiterate its concern with the general problem of landing and approach accidents and to re-emphasize its interest in the various preventive measures which might proof useful in reducing the rate of these kinds of accidents. Except this time, it didnt: very uneven terrain, poor visibility, and a mountain in their path. 1 mile short of the runway. Theres no clear checklist or challenge-and-response interaction between the captain and the first officer. After an uneventful flight, the crew contacted Huntington Approach Control at 19:23. Seluruh penerbangan dari Fort Chipewyan ke Comox. Well, we did find it, that was not the problem. It was the second college football team plane crash in a little over a month, after the October 2 crash that killed 31 (head coach, 14 Wichita State players, and 16 others). [4], The NTSB investigated the accident and its final report was issued on April 14, 1972. [5] The accident is the deadliest tragedy to have affected any sports team in U.S. Emergency By Sharad Ranabhat March 24, 2022. The Chairman of the NTSB said of the accident: If it hadnt been for those trees, he probably would have made it. We know that these guys are quite loose in the cockpit, taking shortcuts. But GPWS was in the future; ISTM that Rudys observations (which could be summarized as terminal(!) This comment by the charter coordinator could mean that he could see that the flight was approaching the Minimum Descent Altitude (MDA) and the runway was still not in sight. His client told him over the phone that there was a small airstrip with a paved runway nearby. Certainly a qualified and reasonably experienced crew of a DC-9 should know. The coordinator should have been told to remain quiet, his comments may have been a serious distraction. But we made it. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a scheduled passenger flight that operated between Huntington, West Virginia and Cincinnati, Ohio on April 4, 1970. No I do not want to judge this colleague. Even so, quite a number of local supporters had joined the team for the rare airborne excursion, so Flight 932 was carrying 75 souls. The determination of Cat one minima or decision altitude was NOT achieved with a rad. variables as winds aloft and flight recorder accuracy. The next scheduled airline flight from the Winchester Road terminal will be a Southern Airways flight to Atlanta. But it's also a month of mourning: on November 14, 1970, on a dark, wet, cold night just after 7:35 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 went down in a field near Kenova, killing all 75 people . pointed to last week, but the report indicates that the airport finally got a vertical-axis ILS (albeit nonstandard) between the crash and the report date, so I guess the writer(s) figured recommending clearing some of the trees on the top of the adjacent peak wasnt useful. Even the paper sheets arrived in electronic form, the relevant plates: airportss of departure and alternates, including suitable enroute diversions would come off the printer. Therefore the minima have to be calculated by deducting the airport elevation from the MDA in order to obtain the height above the runway. A Qatar Airways Airbus A350 en route to Doha was forced to divert to Karachi after cargo hold smoke indication. history.[6]. The CVR does not shed much light on what they were trying to tell each other. Although the airport runway has since been lengthened past its original threshold, making historical measurements more difficult, the NTSB official report provides, "the accident occurred during hours of darkness at 38 22' 27" N. latitude and 82 34' 42" W. Southern Airways Flight 242 was a flight from Muscle Shoals, Alabama, to Atlanta, Georgia, with a stop in Huntsville, Alabama. Marshall University. The out of date plate was not relevant, except that it demonstrated a sloppy operation in general. : 1 At the time of the accident, the Southern Airways . [4] By the time the plane came to a stop, it was 4,219ft (1,286m) short of the runway and 275ft (84m) south of the middle marker. Mtropole du Grand Paris. It was unveiled to thousands 90 minutes before the game with the Miami University RedHawks. Your email address will not be published. And finally, the issue with the barometric altimeter showing 300 feet out was left as a theoretical exercise, without the rigorous testing and simulations that the NTSB would have access to today. I am still confused about the altimeter setting. The crew established radio contact with air traffic controllers at 7:23 pm with instructions to descend to 5,000ft (1,500m). There was no sterile cockpit and the chatter from the back should have been cut off rather than half-heartedly ignored but again, clearly the coordinator was accustomed to being able to discuss fuel and other issues during the final approach. Including this crew. The Board has been unable to determine the reason for this descent, although the two most likely explanations are: a) improper use of cockpit instrument data; or b) an altimetry system error., Further thoughts on the crash and the NTSB investigation. The captain of that flight was 47 years old who had been hired by Southern in 1949. Only if it were pitched nose-down by 10 (an unusually steep angle) could it have crashed into the trees. They were our fathers, mothers, grandparents, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandchildren. In view of the apparent success of the nonstandard glide slope at Huntington, it is unfortunate that such an installation was not made sooner. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) in Ceredo, West Virginia.At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the Tri-State Airport, killing all 75 people on board. That the FAA evaluate the need for the installation and use of ground proximity warning devices on air carrier aircraft. This is just to illustrate that developing a certain skill set and methods that relate to certain stages of technology, the acquisition of the ability to work with modern tools or methods may come at the expense of the skills to work with older, classic tools or methods. The runway was at 828 feet. He called them to advise them that he was about to get into a taxi. If that seemed unlikely in the first scenario, then why wasnt it mentioned as equally an issue in the second? At the end of the ceremony the memorial fountain goes silent until Spring. the aircraft was destroyed. Im imagining that they had figured out that they could fly a QFE approach (relative to runway height) with the RadAlt and itd usually work out as the terrain was usually reasonably flat; they see the runway in time anyway. KLM already permanently laid off its entire B747 fleet ahead of schedule. First Officer: A thousand feet above the ground, rate and speed good. Does that make sense to you? Date Flight Number Aircraft Description; 26 Feb 2021 World Airways Flight 30H DC-10 Overran ice covered runway on landing 03 Mar 2020 . I find the emphasis on GPWS fascinating. The captain in this case had been a Lockheed Tristar pilot before joining Ryanair. Jeppesen also had VFR only sets. Southern Airlines Flight 932 departed Kinston, NC, at 18:38 to return members of the Marshall University football team, coaching staff and other passengers to Huntington. Mendel: does modern TAWS (aka EGPWS) have a terrain database, or only an airfield database? My name is Leslie Deese Garvis. The A350 was performing a flight from Delhi to Doha as flight QR-579 when the occurrence forced it to divert to Karachi. The airliner's crew was Captain Frank Abbot (47), First Officer Jerry Smith (28), plus two flight attendants. Sylvia mentions the MDH, again: Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) in Ceredo, West Virginia. At 7:36pm, Southern Airway Flight 932, a chartered DC-9 carrying the Marshall University Football Team, crashed on approach to Huntington Tri-State Airport killing all 75 people on board. There is a need for all segments of the aviation industry to continue to focus attention on the unique demands for crew coordination and vigilance during nonprecision approaches. "[7]:36 At least one source says that water that had seeped into the plane's altimeter could have thrown off its height readings, leading the pilots to believe the plane was higher than was actually the case. [16] The sculpture's designer, Harry Bertoia, created the $25,000 memorial that incorporated bronze, copper tubing, and welding rods. The captain responded to ask, Is that the approach? The minimum descent altitude of 1,240 feet would be 400 feet above the runway (what Rudy and I would call the MDH). The crash of Flight 932 almost led to the discontinuation of the university's football program. My boss was going make a business visit. 0. So were either looking at an altimeter malfunction, or a bunch of flatland pilots. (#3 might have been intended to saunter vaguely in that direction; possibly the writer was also steering clear of anything suggesting that the airline was at fault.). Always exciting to cross the ADIZ, knowing that without clearance ATC in the West would first start shouting warnings before the radar of the air defences on the far side would be on alert. The CVR data indicated at least two interruptions to power, one lasting 15 . How much does such a system look forward as well as down? So yes, we did learn the importance of looking at the charts carefully. [16] The committee decided upon one major memorial within the campus, a plaque and memorial garden at Fairfield Stadium, and a granite cenotaph at the Spring Hill Cemetery; the Memorial Student Center was designated a memorial as well.[17]. They fully documented the accident scene, examining everything from the recovered cockpit voice recorder to the severely damaged engines to the performance of the flight crew. The population of Vitry-sur-Seine was 78 908 in 1999, 82 902 in 2006 and 83 650 in 2007. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) near Kenova and Ceredo, West Virginia. Perhaps. All 75 on board were killed. 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All were qualified for the flight. First Officer: A thousand feet above the ground, rate and speed good. and the height over the runway, by subtracting the runway elevation (828) from the flight recorder altitude. So the altimeter could have gained those 300 feet in the impact. Only during my final few years did I fly aircraft with moving map systems and electronic Jeppesen plates. This category contains only the following file. This student made a video about Southern Airways flight 932 as his National History Day Project on Tragedy and Triumph (which, to be honest, I watched with the sound off). Perhaps, if we were able to dig a bit further, this might be where the lack of adherence to cockpit crew procedures and poor crew management originated. The boards conclusion leaves open the question as to whether that final call of hundred meant the height above the ground or the current airspeed, as they were in the process of going around. Southern Airways: Registration: N97S: MSN: 47245/510: First flight: 1969: Total airframe hrs: 3667: . There is no known static system error which could cause a 200-foot altimeter error along with a corresponding air-speed error of -17.5 knots; without evidence of a phenomenon which could cause these errors, the Board cannot conclude that a static system error is supported by sufficient evidence to be termed a causal factor in this accident. The Ceredo and Kenova fire departments were recognized at the event. [18], Each year on the anniversary of the crash, those who died are mourned in a ceremony on the Marshall University campus in Huntington, West Virginia. Jeppesen had a 30 arc second (~1km) grid database back in 2002; the DTED-0 database has that resolution and takes up 2 GB of data. Code Insee. So if the 400 feet was from the radio altimeter, then they were only 900 feet above mean sea level, even though the minimum descent altitude for the approach was 1,240 feet above mean sea level. Southern Airways 242 CVR Transcript 4 Apr 1977 - Southern Airways 242 Southern Airways Flight 242 was a DC-9-31 jet, registered N1335U, that executed a forced landing on a highway in New Hope, Paulding County, Georgia, United States after suffering hail damage and losing thrust on both engines in a severe thunderstorm on April 4, 1977. It could have been originally from North Central or Hughes AirWest instead, however. Chip, The radio altimeter was used during Cat 2 or Cat 3 approaches. On Nov. 14, 1970, a plane carrying 75 people including Marshall's football team, coaches, staff, community members and flight crew crashed near the Huntington Tri-State Airport on a return trip. Categories: Aviation accidents and incidents in 1970. Because it was the Herd's only charter flight of the season, boosters and prominent citizens were on the plane, including a city councilman, a state legislator, and four physicians. I had little or no time for preparations. The aircraft was a 95-seat, twin-jet engine Douglas DC-9-30 with tail registration N97S. Page:NTSB Southern Airways Flight 932 report.pdf/34 This page has been proofread, but needs to be validated. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the Tri-State Airport, killing all 75 people on . Some points you make are plausible, but it seems that few readers understand: [3] The team was returning home after a 1714 loss to the East Carolina Pirates at Ficklen Stadium in Greenville, North Carolina. Presuming that the terrain was rising again, they could have been 126 feet above the higher ground. December 10, 2006 Herald-Dispatch [Huntington]. The corresponding flight recorder shows that the craft descended another 220ft (67m) in elevation within these 12 seconds, and the co-pilot calls out "four hundred" and agrees with the pilot they are on the correct "approach." Required fields are marked *. QFE or QNH are part of the respective operators SOPs. The controller later cleared them for a runway 11 localizer approach. our approach speed was nearly the cruising speed of the 172. His seniority earmarked him for promotion. The probable cause was cited as the descent below Minimum Descent Altitude. So its reasonable to think that the captain presumed that they had reached the MDA for that approach. always be in our hearts. His first officer that day was less experienced. Southern Airways (IATA: SO, ICAO: SOU, Call sign: Southern) was a regional airline operating in the United States from its founding by Frank Hulse in 1949 until 1979 when it merged with North Central Airlines to become Republic Airlines, which on October 1, 1986, became part of Northwest Airlines, which in 2008 became a part of Delta Air Lines. On November 14, 1970, at 7:36 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 crashed into a hill short of the runway of the Tri-State Airport at Ceredo, West Virginia, killing all 75 people on board.The plane, a Douglas DC-9, carried 37 members of the Marshall University football team, the Thundering Herd, along with eight members of its coaching staff, 25 boosters, and five flight . alt. Notify me of new posts by email every Friday. Jack Lengyel was named to take Tolley's place on March 12, 1971, after Dick Bestwick, the first choice for the . Hired in 1965, he held his commercial pilot certificate and had 5,872 hours, of which 1,196 were on the DC-9. The video made by the student is surprisingly professional and certainly heartbreaking. The ONLY type of approach where it had anything more than a purely advisory function is in Cat 2 and Cat 3 ILS approaches. For a private owner it was a near impossibility to keep abreast. Required fields are marked *. Yes the Jeppesen was unbelievably detailed and the weekly updates were a real pain in the part of the anatomy that many people these days hoard paper for. Looking at the glide slope diagram, their descent angles make sense if they thought the airport was at 550 ft ASL. On April 4, 1977, it executed a forced landing on Georgia State Route 381 in New Hope, Paulding County, Georgia, United States, after suffering hail damage and losing thrust on both engines in a severe thunderstorm. In the report, the NTSB concluded, "[] the probable cause of this accident was the descent below Minimum Descent Altitude during a nonprecision approach under adverse operating conditions, without visual contact with the runway environment". However, there was another odd detail. [8], The board made three recommendations as a result of this accident, including recommendations for heads-up displays, ground proximity warning devices, and surveillance and inspection of flight operations. In that post, I stepped through the sequence of events which led to the crash of the charter flight to Huntington Tri-State airport in a McDonnell Douglas DC-9 which killed all 75 on board. The disadvantage was that it required an approach controller talking constantly to only one aircraft at the time. Mendel, I felt the images and newspaper headlines did a good job of showing the impact of the crash. that the aviation industry continue to focus on the unique demands for crew coordination and vigilance during non-precision approaches, particularly with emphasis on developing area navigation systems with vertical guidance capability and heads-up display. But it's also a month of mourning: on November 14, 1970, on a dark, wet, cold night just after 7:35 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 went down in a field near Kenova, killing all 75 people on board. So unless the crew were rank amateurs, there was absolutely no excuse for them not to be aware of terrain or obstacles. On November 14, 1970, a DC-9 carrying members of West Virginia's Marshall University Football Team would crash on a rainy hillside, killing everyone on board. Southern Airways, Inc., a Dc-9, N97S, operating as charter Flight 932, crashed during a landing attempt at the Tri-State Airport, Huntington, West Virginia, at approximately 1936 E.S.T., on. [21] The ceremony featured guest speakers Dawson and Hardin. However, the pilot had little, if any, information instantly available to him regarding the elevation and character of the terrain below the aircraft or the flight path related thereto. There is not much in part 2 to make me see this tragedy differently.1. A radio altimeter works essentially the same way as. A memorial bell tower is being planned for a location on WV 75 near exit 1 along Interstate 64. Nowadays GPS can be programmed to give precision guidance to aircraft nearly anywhere, the systems were already being developed before I retired 12 yearw ago. The disadvantage is that it relates to sea level. : 1 The former is easier to use as it will give the altitude as height, with the zero reference being the airport. But this instrument, as I have been at pains to explain, had NO funtction in determining minimum sdescent heights (Not altitudes in this case, it refers to the distance between the aircraft and obstacles immediately below it!). He made at least four call outs that are definitively height or altitude. Southern Airways, Inc., a DC-9, N97S, operating as charter Flight 932, crashed during a landing attempt at the Tri-State Airport, Huntington, West Virginia, at approximately 1936 E.S.T., on November 14, 1970. 2) He erroneously used the radio altimeter, thus calling out the height over the current terrain rather than over the runway. He was going to fly a monitored approach, in fact similar to a cat 2, but only to cat 1 minima. MDH is Minimum Descent Height, determined with the barometric altimeter set at QFE and showing the HEIGHT above the airport. I had not remembered the plates detailing obstacles around the approach, but from ~45 years ago thats not surprising; I also flew mostly near the coast, so uneven terrain wasnt something I paid much attention to. This may still be the case, I dont know. The unit has sustained considerable impact damage to the electronics package, but there was no damage within the stainless steel case of the tape magazine. We did get some information, including the warning that if the destination was not identified within a few minutes after ETA the pilot had to make an immediate U-turn and fly on a westerly heading. The glass cockpit had not been introduced yet. Jimmy Doolittle had far less at his disposal when he demonstrated the possibility of landing on instruments, but he did possess ample basic flying skills and the discipline to maintain his concentration. The 2015 EUROCONTROL Terrain and Obstacle Data Manual mandates a 3 arc second grid that gets more accurate closer to airports. Mendel, They were our fathers, mothers, grandparents, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandchildren. Thats an important point in itself. The pilot had his barometric altimeter, vertical speed indicator, airspeed indicator, and radio altimeter to aid him in establishing the desired descent profile. the height over the terrain, by subtracting the elevation from the altitude. Southern Airways - Flight #242 - DC-9-30 - New Hope, GA - April 4, 1977 - "I was in the training department at the time - while I didn't go to the crash site, I was responsible for all Flight Attendant training records, and also was called in to assist when Sandy Purl wanted to listen to the cockpit voice recorder," Gloria recalled. The main difference was a changed holding pattern, they never even got that far. Recommendation #1 starts to point at this, then veers off into planned electronic aids that would do nothing if the crew didnt pay attention to them; in particular, its not clear that a heads-up display would have helped in those conditions. Southern announces its Covid19 policy. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the . Finally, he may have been including his barometric altimeter in his instrument scan, but was concerned with other items during the final stages of the approach to such an extent that he did not notice any variations. You contribution makes sense, even if the investigation failed to determine whether or not the altimeter had been a factor. They were more than a movie. [21], November 14, 2013, marked the first time that Marshall had played a road game on an anniversary of the disaster. Seventy children had at least one parent die in the crash, with 18 of them left orphaned. That game did not occur due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft . Southern is the only US Commuter Airline serving America's 5 Busiest Airports! But there the relevant heights were calibrated and shown on the Cat 2 or Cat 3 approach plates. [1][2], The plane was carrying 37 members of the Marshall University Thundering Herd football team, eight members of the coaching staff, 25 boosters, two pilots, two flight attendants, and a charter coordinator. The aircraft began its normal descent after passing the outer marker, but did not arrest its descent and hold altitude at 1,240ft (380m), as required by the assigned instrument approach procedure. On a precision approach we use either DA or DH, same principle. And the fourth call, the important one, to show that theyd reached their MDA, doesnt match up however we look at it. The NTSB had previously recommended the installation of altitude alerting devices (Ground Proximity Warning Systems) in reports released in 1968, 1969, 1971 and 1972 (the Southern flight 932 report was released in late 1972). Id think a terrain database would take up a lot of memory even with the huge capacity of modern RAM. Then there was the annual checklist. Airport (MEM), Southern Airways Express operates a fleet of 36 aircraft traveling to a range of sought-after destinations. How much would it cost to develop a system that uses directional radar (similar to Civilian Primary Surveillance Radar) that reports elevation relative to the runway, so the air traffic controller could includes that information as a safety check for pilots to verify their own readings/calculations? The landing gear was lowered but no statement was made by either crew member in the cockpit. This captain and I had done our simulator training and check together, so we knew that we could operate as a strong team. The city of Huntington, West Virginia, and Marshall University suffered an unimaginable loss: the crash of Flight 932, a chartered Southern Airways McDonnell Douglas DC-9-31 jet carrying most of the members of the Marshall University Thundering Herd football team, as well as boosters, coaches, and other passengers. The SRTM3 (Space Shuttle Radar Topography Mission) data set has that resolution and is 35 GB in size. Improved highways and an increasing willingness among passengers to drive to airports farther away for more convenient flights made many of Southern's routes obsolete. Regulations, entry requirements, class 2 Notams, interpretation of TAFs, METARs, de-icing priocedures, emergency procedures, you name it: it can all be found in the Jeppy, combined with airway charts, area charts and the various and very detailed STARs, SIDs, airport charts and approach charts. Your email address will not be published. Your story confirms what I was pointing at: there seems to have been not only bad real-time CRM but bad (or completely missing) preparation. Menu. New route: Fly between Muskegon and Chicago and make seamless connections to United, American, and Alaska Airlines. It was the difference between getting there or diverting. Classes at Marshall, along with numerous events and shows by the Marshall Artists Series (and the football team's game against the Ohio Bobcats), were cancelled and government offices were closed. They were more than a movie. With its primary hub at Memphis Intl. In the following weeks, Lengyel was aided in his attempts by receivers' coach Red Dawson. Any lateral adjustment to the flightpath may change the height of the aircraft above the hilly terrain. Southern Airways Flight 932: Oklahoma State University: United States: 2001: ten people associated with men's basketball team (including two players) This flight was the only flight that year for the Marshall University football team. longitude." It would not have been a problem if the approach had been preceeded by a crew briefing. The remarks of the captain regarding the autopilot and the downdrafts might then be the result of him not being aware that terrain height changes would affect the RadAlt; hed think the aircraft had moved more vertically than his mental model of the aircraft position allowed for, when in fact the terrain height had changed. "Kenova to dedicate crash memorial Monday." Itd be interesting to know which airports they were used to flying to, and how much experience they had with mountain operations. Why does he call out the height above ground at all? Here is a table from the report which shows: As you can see, the first call certainly appears to be the height over the runway elevation. This could also at least partly explain why the crew seemed uncertain of their terrain clearance. Why. They do not change the altimeter setting halfway during an approach, nor are they at liberty to select either. The bronze 1723 ft (57 m) statue was created by artist Burl Jones of Sissonville, West Virginia, and cost $150,000. was well above the airport altitude. In this case the issue was an unfamiliar airport rather than an unfamiliar procedure, but their failure to plan seems clear. You could be correct. I find this only slightly better than an explanation that the plane crash was caused by impact with the trees, to be honest. Seventy children lost at least one parent in the crash, with 18 of them left orphaned. Both systems were used to talk-down an aircraft. Database; Description; Contact Search the site. [15], Marshall University President John G. Barker and Vice President Dedmon appointed a memorial committee soon after the crash. We kept Europe and Eastern Europe, our area of operations brought us frequently behind the Iron Curtain. Flight status, tracking, and historical data for Southern Airways Express 932 (9X932/FDY932) including scheduled, estimated, and actual departure and arrival times. The aircraft was destroyed. What remains obvious: Human resource management and crew coordination were slack, even by the standards of 1970. [1]:1 [3] Even so, I did get caught out once. The larger folded airway charts still would arrive by mail. Southern Airways. At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill . Got bug and twelve. A mass funeral was held at the field house and many of the dead were buried at the Spring Hill Cemetery, some together because bodies were not identifiable. The hill with the trees reached a height of 990 feet above sea level, so about 150 feet higher than the runway that they were flying towards. Although the Safety Board has been unable to determine the probable reason for the unrecognized descent below MDA in this instance, the Board wishes to reiterate its concern with the general problem of landing and approach accidents and to re-emphasize its interest in the various preventive measures which might proof useful in reducing the rate of these kinds of accidents. Except this time, it didnt: very uneven terrain, poor visibility, and a mountain in their path. 1 mile short of the runway. Theres no clear checklist or challenge-and-response interaction between the captain and the first officer. After an uneventful flight, the crew contacted Huntington Approach Control at 19:23. Seluruh penerbangan dari Fort Chipewyan ke Comox. Well, we did find it, that was not the problem. It was the second college football team plane crash in a little over a month, after the October 2 crash that killed 31 (head coach, 14 Wichita State players, and 16 others). [4], The NTSB investigated the accident and its final report was issued on April 14, 1972. [5] The accident is the deadliest tragedy to have affected any sports team in U.S. Emergency By Sharad Ranabhat March 24, 2022. The Chairman of the NTSB said of the accident: If it hadnt been for those trees, he probably would have made it. We know that these guys are quite loose in the cockpit, taking shortcuts. But GPWS was in the future; ISTM that Rudys observations (which could be summarized as terminal(!) This comment by the charter coordinator could mean that he could see that the flight was approaching the Minimum Descent Altitude (MDA) and the runway was still not in sight. His client told him over the phone that there was a small airstrip with a paved runway nearby. Certainly a qualified and reasonably experienced crew of a DC-9 should know. The coordinator should have been told to remain quiet, his comments may have been a serious distraction. But we made it. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a scheduled passenger flight that operated between Huntington, West Virginia and Cincinnati, Ohio on April 4, 1970. No I do not want to judge this colleague. Even so, quite a number of local supporters had joined the team for the rare airborne excursion, so Flight 932 was carrying 75 souls. The determination of Cat one minima or decision altitude was NOT achieved with a rad. variables as winds aloft and flight recorder accuracy. The next scheduled airline flight from the Winchester Road terminal will be a Southern Airways flight to Atlanta. But it's also a month of mourning: on November 14, 1970, on a dark, wet, cold night just after 7:35 p.m., Southern Airways Flight 932 went down in a field near Kenova, killing all 75 people . pointed to last week, but the report indicates that the airport finally got a vertical-axis ILS (albeit nonstandard) between the crash and the report date, so I guess the writer(s) figured recommending clearing some of the trees on the top of the adjacent peak wasnt useful. Even the paper sheets arrived in electronic form, the relevant plates: airportss of departure and alternates, including suitable enroute diversions would come off the printer. Therefore the minima have to be calculated by deducting the airport elevation from the MDA in order to obtain the height above the runway. A Qatar Airways Airbus A350 en route to Doha was forced to divert to Karachi after cargo hold smoke indication. history.[6]. The CVR does not shed much light on what they were trying to tell each other. Although the airport runway has since been lengthened past its original threshold, making historical measurements more difficult, the NTSB official report provides, "the accident occurred during hours of darkness at 38 22' 27" N. latitude and 82 34' 42" W. Southern Airways Flight 242 was a flight from Muscle Shoals, Alabama, to Atlanta, Georgia, with a stop in Huntsville, Alabama. Marshall University. The out of date plate was not relevant, except that it demonstrated a sloppy operation in general. : 1 At the time of the accident, the Southern Airways . [4] By the time the plane came to a stop, it was 4,219ft (1,286m) short of the runway and 275ft (84m) south of the middle marker. Mtropole du Grand Paris. It was unveiled to thousands 90 minutes before the game with the Miami University RedHawks. Your email address will not be published. And finally, the issue with the barometric altimeter showing 300 feet out was left as a theoretical exercise, without the rigorous testing and simulations that the NTSB would have access to today. I am still confused about the altimeter setting. The crew established radio contact with air traffic controllers at 7:23 pm with instructions to descend to 5,000ft (1,500m). There was no sterile cockpit and the chatter from the back should have been cut off rather than half-heartedly ignored but again, clearly the coordinator was accustomed to being able to discuss fuel and other issues during the final approach. Including this crew. The Board has been unable to determine the reason for this descent, although the two most likely explanations are: a) improper use of cockpit instrument data; or b) an altimetry system error., Further thoughts on the crash and the NTSB investigation. The captain of that flight was 47 years old who had been hired by Southern in 1949. Only if it were pitched nose-down by 10 (an unusually steep angle) could it have crashed into the trees. They were our fathers, mothers, grandparents, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandchildren. In view of the apparent success of the nonstandard glide slope at Huntington, it is unfortunate that such an installation was not made sooner. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) in Ceredo, West Virginia.At 7:36 pm on November 14, 1970, the aircraft crashed into a hill just short of the Tri-State Airport, killing all 75 people on board. That the FAA evaluate the need for the installation and use of ground proximity warning devices on air carrier aircraft. This is just to illustrate that developing a certain skill set and methods that relate to certain stages of technology, the acquisition of the ability to work with modern tools or methods may come at the expense of the skills to work with older, classic tools or methods. The runway was at 828 feet. He called them to advise them that he was about to get into a taxi. If that seemed unlikely in the first scenario, then why wasnt it mentioned as equally an issue in the second? At the end of the ceremony the memorial fountain goes silent until Spring. the aircraft was destroyed. Im imagining that they had figured out that they could fly a QFE approach (relative to runway height) with the RadAlt and itd usually work out as the terrain was usually reasonably flat; they see the runway in time anyway. KLM already permanently laid off its entire B747 fleet ahead of schedule. First Officer: A thousand feet above the ground, rate and speed good. Does that make sense to you? Date Flight Number Aircraft Description; 26 Feb 2021 World Airways Flight 30H DC-10 Overran ice covered runway on landing 03 Mar 2020 . I find the emphasis on GPWS fascinating. The captain in this case had been a Lockheed Tristar pilot before joining Ryanair. Jeppesen also had VFR only sets. Southern Airlines Flight 932 departed Kinston, NC, at 18:38 to return members of the Marshall University football team, coaching staff and other passengers to Huntington. Mendel: does modern TAWS (aka EGPWS) have a terrain database, or only an airfield database? My name is Leslie Deese Garvis. The A350 was performing a flight from Delhi to Doha as flight QR-579 when the occurrence forced it to divert to Karachi. The airliner's crew was Captain Frank Abbot (47), First Officer Jerry Smith (28), plus two flight attendants. Sylvia mentions the MDH, again: Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) in Ceredo, West Virginia. At 7:36pm, Southern Airway Flight 932, a chartered DC-9 carrying the Marshall University Football Team, crashed on approach to Huntington Tri-State Airport killing all 75 people on board. There is a need for all segments of the aviation industry to continue to focus attention on the unique demands for crew coordination and vigilance during nonprecision approaches. "[7]:36 At least one source says that water that had seeped into the plane's altimeter could have thrown off its height readings, leading the pilots to believe the plane was higher than was actually the case. [16] The sculpture's designer, Harry Bertoia, created the $25,000 memorial that incorporated bronze, copper tubing, and welding rods. The captain responded to ask, Is that the approach? The minimum descent altitude of 1,240 feet would be 400 feet above the runway (what Rudy and I would call the MDH). The crash of Flight 932 almost led to the discontinuation of the university's football program. My boss was going make a business visit. 0. So were either looking at an altimeter malfunction, or a bunch of flatland pilots. (#3 might have been intended to saunter vaguely in that direction; possibly the writer was also steering clear of anything suggesting that the airline was at fault.). Always exciting to cross the ADIZ, knowing that without clearance ATC in the West would first start shouting warnings before the radar of the air defences on the far side would be on alert. The CVR data indicated at least two interruptions to power, one lasting 15 . How much does such a system look forward as well as down? So yes, we did learn the importance of looking at the charts carefully. [16] The committee decided upon one major memorial within the campus, a plaque and memorial garden at Fairfield Stadium, and a granite cenotaph at the Spring Hill Cemetery; the Memorial Student Center was designated a memorial as well.[17]. They fully documented the accident scene, examining everything from the recovered cockpit voice recorder to the severely damaged engines to the performance of the flight crew. The population of Vitry-sur-Seine was 78 908 in 1999, 82 902 in 2006 and 83 650 in 2007. Southern Airways Flight 932 was a chartered Southern Airways Douglas DC-9 domestic United States commercial jet flight from Stallings Field (ISO) in Kinston, North Carolina, to Huntington Tri-State Airport/Milton J. Ferguson Field (HTS) near Kenova and Ceredo, West Virginia. Perhaps. All 75 on board were killed. 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