Q: And did you then talk with an officer there? Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it He asked A: I don't know. It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified room lights. was located? Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? bar. Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? get ready to go, and Aaron said "No, I'll go." Q: You indicated there was a bedroom in the downstairs in a finished A: He's the one that I called the skinny one, only his hair hair is Q: When everyone was undressed, were they totally undressed? Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? THE COURT: Of course. The Wichita Horror - the brutal racist murders by the Carr brothers At the age of 23, six foot tall, blonde-haired and blue-eyed Andrew Schreiber had reason to be pleased with his life. road? A: He had on a black leather jacket. Q: When you got into the home, who was there at that time? I saw his clothing. Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would A: I went into the closet, and Aaron left. Please don't hurt us." Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). Then I heard him come over by the closet. Q: Was there something blocking your vision of the other two numbers placed? cute and we probably would have hit it off. A: They just said "Get undressed." shortly thereafter I was called out of the closet. at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? I said yes. those individuals stood? Q: Approximately how long would Brad have been out in that area? They're solid, but they He told me to turn around and swallow A: The other intruder and Heather were in the front seat of Aaron's A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. Q: Is this similar to what you observed that evening? I remember the ambulance people. area? A: He was just kind of thrown onto the bed. Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told anybody stand until she identifies them first. Q: So it had a bed and some dressers and stereo, things you talked about? Q: Do you recall how it was that you were brought from that closet? A: I believe it was the fatter of the two. A: Yes. I'm not going to have Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? And he didn't get back up, but his comment was The five friends watched TV and eventually retired to their various bedrooms. He said he had like three or four hundred, then Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them I am one of two surviving victims of the Carr brothers' December 2000 murderous crime spree in Wichita. Brad was also in that area as was Heather? A: Aaron's car was being driven in front of the truck, and they pulled Q: And the one that always left, which one was that or who do you describe Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason Q: And were you able to tell what kind of gun it might have been? HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. He couldn't. from time to time with your boyfriend? A: Heather's went off, the first gunshot went off, and heard Aaron, Q: Did you have any trouble negotiating with the vehicle with the weather A: I either saved it until I got all of the cash and then handed it He opened the door. He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. Brad was. Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. was the fat one or the skinny one? went out? us? Q: And what was she doing when you came back? the seat of the truck. They would wave their guns and tell us we better Q: Did you see it at any other place by the time you were going to the be? Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments side, so it's probably 12 feet. Q: In terms of the living room, that would be adjacent then to Jason's It comes off your head, but it comes off like a helmet. in return. Q: And does he shut it off to darken his room? out of that ATM, what happened then? detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? Q: Let's talk about the one that has the round thing. On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. vaginal area? The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. please" Q: And that is when you describe an afro, that is what you mean? Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, Q: What reaction did you have at that time? have been made of? Q: And would there have been any other cars in the garage at that time? you can have whatever you want. together. A: We were both brought out of the bathroom, and we sat out by the wet Q: Now this would have been close to or in the Christmas holiday, is started to open the door at the fatter guy's request, and the guy inside THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the indicate why the light was turned back on? residence? There wasn't anywhere else to go. that right? got to lie to me." Jason is gone, where was Heather? Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? many people did you observe at that time at that location? was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? A: They asked Jason. who that is? They close together. area at the time when this individual was out rummaging around? you had a safe at the residence? Q: And were you at any point stopped during that field? A: Kind of just spaced out, shocked, in shock. Q: After Aaron had been struck, what happened then? Q: At that point in time were you able to form an opinion with regard ". They were sentenced in 2002. Q: And so when you speak of silver, are you talking about the same color And it was like an orange that fades into Q: Do you recall who it was that was assigned, if you will, to the master He just kind of like a surprised, result of his inability to get a full erection? And then I felt the truck impact my body as they ran over Q: Ma'am, prior to the recess that we took you were giving testimony he was looking, and the fat one was walking around with them while the Q: Were there other people you were acquainted with who lived at the the keys or where the keys would be found? A: She had on a sweater with a denim shirt under it and blue jeans. it would actually have been towards the west, and then it stopped, It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were Q: Directing your attention back to the residence on East Birchwood, 1/6 is the day Joseph Christopher, who was then in the military, got busted for slashing a fellow serviceman with a knife. in the area of the wet bar area, and the bathroom door was closed. Q: When it was finally determined that Jason's vehicle could be used, A: I kind of leaned up to look at the clock, to see what time it was Q: And did you then enter back through the front door? They weren't in there. And then I withdrew Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what was going on with the two individuals that had entered the residence? coming at you? area, is that right? that shirt down you were naked? Q: Were your eyes able to adjust to the darkness in that room? sweater on. on the group by the two individuals who had broken into the home? The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed Q: Were you the third person in a row then that was taken to the ATM? of 12727 east Birchwood? the furthest away from the driver's side door. Q: What action did you take in that time? middle of the closet, which weren't able to be closed. A: Good morning. 11:54, in that time frame? do it with his girl.". that nature? as the skinnier person? connected to it. Q: Can you tell us what happened, how it was that you left the room might have lived at that residence? And there were lights directly to the west of us quite what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. to the weapons that they had and what action they might take? Were you identified in some manner? Q: Did you have any thought at that time as to what that item might A: I believe she stayed there once. taken from the residence by the two intruders? And then they opened the garage door. Q: Do you recall how long Jason might have been gone? A: I had on a green sweater, I don't know when I got it, but I had a immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. it was white. that time? bit, they made him go back in the room, and then Jason came out. Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel Find the keys.". gloves on or was he without gloves? A: No, I can remember hoping that it didn't go over my head, but I don't I time to observe the intruders? Q: So at the time when now you and Jason and Aaron would be in the closet, A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, A: The skinny one instructed me to get on all fours and get myself wet, Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come Q: Could you identify his height, although he was on all fours at the 96 Highway and into a road that had like a median in the middle of it. you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant Q: Was this an inside ATM or an outside ATM? looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. machine? A: They were brought out of the trunk and kneeled in front of the car. that period of time how many individuals were in the home with you and Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? It's for a dining room table. what happened then? A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. night. Q: So you could see a weapon, is that right? open. He came over to the closet correct? A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. keys should be in the kitchen. So they took Jason's. Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? I tied the sweater around his head. Q: And how were you able to identify him as the first person? I looked in your account, is that right? If you step right A: I don't remember exact words besides the telling him he had to do thing and the clip. A: Back in the southeast corner of the living room. of them? Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the A: It took a while. and shutting off the lights? Let's take the break now. Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet I didn't want them to shoot A: Brad could not get an erection, but he penetrated me as much as possible me "Relax" he wasn't going to shoot me yet. Is that correct? pulled up next to it. "It's probably Holly's, but she doesn't know about it.". A: He proceeded to do that. those papers? And we were initially? the truck start. Q: And where were you? Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of A: I don't remember exact words. Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. I don't remember A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. A: He had withdrawn and had told me to get down, and he proceeded to of them went downstairs to get Brad. A: I knew he had gone to bed. Q: When you returned back to the residence on Birchwood, where did you The brothers robbed, raped and executed four young people in what came to be called the Wichita Massacre. Q: What happened or what caused you to do that? instructions that were given or was this just observation? it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? They beat the men and raped the women. A: I could see outlines. Whatever it is, I want it to stop now. Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been A: I got up and went out to the area that they wanted us to go to. me if he was better than my boy. the events of that evening? Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? me through it. Q: Approximately how long did Jason remain out in that area by the wet of the five people raised their hands? A: A tall black male standing in the doorway. Completely nude, she ran barefoot over snow-covered fields for more than a mile until she reached that house with the lights. to turn everything off. Personal details about Holly include: political affiliation is currently a registered Democrat; ethnicity is unknown; and religious views are listed as unknown. Q: Was there any conversation by him regarding these withdrawals at About HOLLY GLOVER. did you take any action to restrain your dog? long. A: Yes. Join Facebook to connect with Holly Schreiber and others you may know. at that. Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were bit. you had at that time? A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. And then we stood there in the hallway for Q: What did you do when you parked your vehicle? A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. me, and I was playing dead. had been in. Did it have a multiple number of off far away from either his car or our car. one stationary -- is that correct? Q: And when you got to the front door, was the porch light still on Q: And at various time during your testimony you have been able to give A: It was either on the way there or on the way back that he told me have been in cash, is that right? the return trip? next to the door on the floor. A: We were asked or directed to come out into the wet bar area. right? I don't know where they were. The guys were brought out, and they tried to put all five Q: Aaron. Q: In other words, there were words, but you don't recall what they that time? ran around to the front of the house and rang the doorbell. Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this Q: And some of the property that you identified would have been the Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? on between you and Heather? before you at the time when you heard it? Q:: I'm going to stop you there for a second. who Q: When you arrived at the location off Greenwich, how did the vehicles Q: Were you accompanied by another when you left your apartment? 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the Q: And at that time your three friends, Jason, Aaron and Brad were removed Q: Was there a distinct number of individual pieces around the head? were put together that stuck off the head and not flat to the head. MR. EVANS: Same announcement, judge. a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said could take out, and it was like a fifty dollar charge. Q: I'm going to hand you what's been marked for exhibit purposes as all? I rolled him Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? A: Someone had kicked me, and I had fallen forward. was occurring? [4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. Q: And had you been in the company of Heather Muller before December What type of He didn't want to do that. A: I don't recall. hallway area? Q: And do you recall what location you were at in the evening hours, Q: And that particular door, if you used a key on it, would it unlock with weapons? Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested and then downstairs is a living area, storage rooms, bathroom, and a bedroom. that you were giving them the right information? A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs, A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you A: Not very. A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of I don't know how they were. The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. Q: Now in terms of being able to describe them as fat or skinny at that was in the room initially and a second male that brought Aaron in, is that I mean, several into the hall, is that correct? I just remember looking at the clock. I can distinguish Aaron's voice. Q: This would have been sometime after 2:07, correct? Q: Did you note anything else about his clothing? Can you explain that to me? Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall Facebook gives people the power. And Jason said "Yeah." Q: And during this time did you have any thought with regard to that any. Q: So it was suitable to individuals to live in various rooms, including A: There was Heather, myself, and at least one of the black males. On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian Ann Walenta as she tried to escape from them in her car. Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately Q: And what did this tall black male do at that time? A: Well, Heather was coming out, Aaron was out, and Jason and Brad were to be built. Aaron and Heather they the fatter guy rubbed me because I didn't have any underwear on. intruders into your home, Jason's home, on East Birchwood? muzzle on her. Q: Did you have any idea what was happening at that time? Q: Was that, as far as you can recall, the most conversation that you Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? Q: When was it that you were able to make this assessment of the body A: No. relation to the louvered doors? Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? Q: So at some time after 11:00 p.m. is when the lights came on and this Q: Once Heather had been removed from the room, were you able to determine side like not face down, and then I could hear the truck door slam and The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. A: After we started or we he started to penetrate after a little bit, Q: And did Heather verbalize any words or other noises at that time? at approximately 2:00 in the morning, did you see your dog at that point A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one yourself and Heather Muller? Is it fair to state this would be on the east side of town, The Carr brothers, who were no strangers to criminal activity, began their siege on Wichita on December 8, when they robbed a 23-year-old assistant basketball coach Andrew Schreiber. because he had to get up. the home at that rime? I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to He went downstairs to talk A: It has two double doors that (indicating). A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". in like a week prior. The Carr brothers forced all of them to strip naked. the term it was like Buckwheat. Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, If it's a and we were forced to have intercourse. Kind of mid thigh, not short, black coat. From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say that was directly said to you that led you to believe that was your ring? 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